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Post by Benjamin Morgan on Sept 22, 2007 14:01:20 GMT -5
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Post by demsul on Sept 22, 2007 15:08:38 GMT -5
An article written by former KGB agent Ion Mihail Pacepa, the highest intelligence officer ever to defect to the west, stated "Sowing the seeds of anti-Americanism by discrediting the American president was one of the main tasks of the Soviet-bloc intelligence community during the years I worked at its top levels. This same strategy is at work today, but it is regarded as bad manners to point out the Soviet parallels. For communists, only the leader counted, no matter the country, friend or foe. At home, they deified their own ruler–as to a certain extent still holds true in Russia. Abroad, they asserted that a fish starts smelling from the head, and they did everything in their power to make the head of the Free World stink." The communist effort to generate hatred for the American president began soon after President Truman set up NATO and propelled the three Western occupation forces to unite their zones to form a new West German nation. We were tasked to take advantage of the reawakened patriotic feelings stirring in the European countries that had been subjugated by the Nazis, in order to shift their hatred for Hitler over into hatred for Truman–the leader of the new "occupation power." Western Europe was still grateful to the U.S. for having restored its freedom, but it had strong leftist movements that we secretly financed. They were like putty in our hands. The European leftists, like any totalitarians, needed a tangible enemy, and we gave them one. In no time they began beating their drums decrying President Truman as the "butcher of Hiroshima." We went on to spend many years and many billions of dollars disparaging subsequent presidents: Eisenhower as a war-mongering "shark" run by the military-industrial complex, Johnson as a mafia boss who had bumped off his predecessor, Nixon as a petty tyrant, Ford as a dimwitted football player and Jimmy Carter as a bumbling peanut farmer."
Good to see that old Communist tactics are still used. Even though he does look good with the mustache.
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Post by Benjamin Morgan on Sept 22, 2007 15:13:19 GMT -5
Call it communist. But don't call it anti-American. It's anti-anti-American. Bush is one of the worst presidents in the history of this young country. We need a leader in office. Not a follower.
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Post by demsul on Sept 22, 2007 15:22:36 GMT -5
Well, we haven't had one of those since Reagan. (As I continue to stir the pot)
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Post by 42jeff on Sept 27, 2007 21:06:03 GMT -5
No no...I think your recipe is just fine. Perhaps a little BITTER....but tasty nonetheless
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Post by demsul on Sept 29, 2007 10:39:31 GMT -5
And Reagan was portrayed as a bumbling actor... so now the left is portraying Pres. Bush as a dimwitted boob even though his academic record was better than J. Kerry. As Hitler (or was it Goebbels) stated so eloquently "If you repeat a lie enough it becomes truth". So, the leftist media has continually played the "Bush" is dumb card and the masses continue to drink the Koolaid. (I think the pot is coming to a boil)
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Post by demsul on Sept 29, 2007 20:29:15 GMT -5
According to Spanish Gov. transcripts of talks with Bush: “The Egyptians are talking with Saddam Hussein. It seems he has hinted he’d be willing to leave if he’s allowed to take 1 billion dollars and all the information on WMDs.” If Saddam had no WMD's why would he say such a thing? If he didn't have any or any information why would he say this? Maybe it's a plot cooked up by Bush. Oh, wait can't be. Bush is stupid. (pot boiling over)
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Post by Benjamin Morgan on Sept 29, 2007 21:45:01 GMT -5
You want to stir the pot? Then tell me why we're in this war. Give me one good reason. You tell me why this is a necessary war. WWII was a necessary war. This? This is war crime. Bush should be tried as a war criminal.
If there is one thing that has echoed throughout history, it's this: When people are tired of the atrocities of their government and are ready to overthrow it, they do it. They do it themselves. We did it. France did it. Germany tried to do it. Iraq wasn't ready for change. When they were ready they would have done it. It's not our job to go in there and tell people that they need to be free. We were wrong for what we did and we should be ashamed that so many soldiers have died in vain.
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Post by demsul on Sept 29, 2007 22:05:53 GMT -5
The US Military has been at war with Iraq since 1991. America has been at the mall. We had 17 reasons to go into Iraq all supported by the UN. All violated by Saddaam Then there are the many cease fire violations that took place all perpetuated by Iraq. So, yep, there's enough reason right there. England, France, Germany, Russia, China, and Australia all said that Iraq had WMD's. Even everyone's precious Hillary and Kerry said the same. Regime change was a policy carried over from the can do no wrong Pres. Clinton administration. So, when popular opinion got up to and over 70% to go to war, congress authorized it, which in turn gave the current administration the authority to go into Iraq. Now that the polls are low, it's let's run away. Russia, France and China didn't support it due to their governmetns getting money from Iraq. Iraq was ready for change right after the Gulf war but since the Us let the people of Iraq who rose up to over throw Saddam down the people had to wait. And I for one will NEVER be ashamed of our actions. EVER! (course I advocate nuking the whole bloody middle east from orbit)
(I think the pots boiled over and is now empty)
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Post by demsul on Sept 29, 2007 22:14:44 GMT -5
And to quote Gen. Giap and how the media (like our current leftist media) helps the enemy:
"What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it. But we were elated to notice your media were definitely helping us (underlining: jd). They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!"
General Giap, North Vietnam (memoirs)
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Post by Benjamin Morgan on Sept 30, 2007 0:55:23 GMT -5
Alright. What are we doin? Neither of us know shit about what really happened or what's really happened. That's why they have classified information. I'm not going to change anything I said before. But I will say that I feel like we've been betrayed because I don't believe we've been told everything. Now, I know that they can't tell us everything but I still think this country is in shambles. That's clear. No one can deny that. We have the biggest national debt, we're in a war we can't win, the media is controlling everything, etc, etc, it goes on and on. We need a huge change. This administration is just not getting things done. So let's get Gravel in office and start the change.
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Post by demsul on Oct 13, 2007 23:22:28 GMT -5
G.W ticked me off the other day when he was/is trying to prevent Texas from frying an illegal immigrant convicted of brutally raping and killing two teenaged girls. I say fry the sum b***
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